DOTA Final Options

[Eul]

Due to the lack of appreciation I received for my hours of work, I've decided to scrap Anniversary Edition completely. This map contains the balance changes of AE without any skin/icon/terrain changes. I also fixed the faulty exp denial triggers.

Just what you always wanted.

[Moon Impact]

I liked your work on the AE a lot. Too bad you scrapped it. You did a great job.

[Recnamorcen]

That's a shame, but I'm not suprised. Thanks Eul.

[GrimOram]

wow. wad happened? i dled AE this morning and it was a lot fun. maybe i missed sumthing huge. For wad its werth,i think u did a good job.

[Kid_Saiyan]

good thing I already dled AE

[starmeteor]

Actually those skin change is good.... I like most of it
however, the TS is really a big big problem..........
I am sorry to hear that the AE is cut :( :( :( :( :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep:

[hellsempty]

so wait it was released this morning, which i missed, and now its scraped later on today?

laaaaaaaaaaaame.

[AIAndy]

Its a pity that you let yourself be influenced by a bunch of kiddies who have no idea what effort making a map is and who don't know how to critisize in a constructive way.
I thought AE was on the right way and quite close to a really great final version. Some of the changes might have turned off some because they were a change from what they were used to but I have no doubt that after some time they would have been so used to it that they would not have considered turning back. I still hope that you will continue on AE or at least hand it over to someone so all the work put into it does not go into the dust bin.

[Thunderbolt]

i like the idea, AE simply had to much bugs & errors. beside the skin and terrain changes were not neccesary.
eul, plz edit ur post and post the balances changes again.

[Sesshoumaru]

AIAndy, I don't see you with a well known map =\ Many people 'do' know what making a map takes. Should people just sit quietly and suck up to Eul, even if there are things that virtually everyone dislikes, or should they voice their opinions? :P

[ætherine]

Well, like he said, ya'll got what you wanted.

Dumb Forum Goers.

As much as I'm sure everyone on the forums would like to think, and as every DotA player wants to believe - Eul isn't making this just to please some people on the internet. This is his map. This is his creation. And he wants to share it with all of you people. You should be blessed that he wants to have people playing his map and enjoying it. That he wants to mod a forum for it, release version after version, and even finish the project after starting upon another one, which is almost ready to be released.


Instead, I see the forum complaining, bitching, whining, and moaning about how "this-this-this and this" doesn't please them. Or it doesn't look right. Or it isn't good/bad/gosu/nerfed enough. You patronize him for doing with his map what he wants to. You antagonize him at times for doing something you didn't think was right with it. And now you all pay.

No custom content. Nothing nifty or new. Nothing pretty to look at. No changes aside from balance. Complete and total balance. Just the way the forum wanted it.

I'm ashamed to have ever been on these forums now. If I could have a live talk with Eul, I'd tell him how much I think his map kicked ass in the AE form. I'd tell him that the choices he made were good, and that I was happy to see that his map turned out as close to the way he wanted it.

Sadly all I get to see is a bunch of spoiled brats complaining about how they don't like this, or that. I won't even bother siting examples, it's a moot point after I post this.

But I hope you're all proud of yourselfs. You have insulted the creator of the map you love so much. Think how you'd feel right now if you were him, and your map were being flamed as hard as possible for every little detail. I now how he feels, it's happened to me before without having a good map or player base.

Eul, like I said before, I hope you were happy with how AE looked. I'm sure no one will ever be more pleased with it than you.. but I thought it was quite nice no matter the faults that these Poo-Slinging Monkeys may have pointed out.

[kezki]

I read the earlier thread this morning and noticed that some people were in fact not that appreciative.
However, a lot were. I would venture to say a lot lot lot more are extremely appreciative of AE, but may not have posted. Not everyone is going to just post: "Great Job." People like to post things that went wrong so they can be changed. That shows their appreciation as well. They sometimes push too hard, but only because they enjoy DOTA tremendously.

1.63 with small balance changes would be a worthy finish, but AE was on its way to be spectacular. Either way, thanks for the work. I would send a PM, but I am sure many others already have/will.

Again, Eul, me and many other players have always appreciated what you, Kaye, Sess have done to the map. Otherwise it wouldn't be played. At the same time, us players are stakeholders as well. And as the final users we like to point out things that could be improved (some in a mild manner, some in a more unfortunately too forceful manner).

I personally would like to see AE. But if it's not worth the effort, I am already quite happy with 1.63.

[mAgIc.iKuOg]

Eul. Good work. We all appreciate your work. Just didnt have time to post it because we are all busy playing your great creation.

Don't be disheartened. We all love you and will continue to support you. :)

[ChaosYoshi]

Eul, you have no idea how badly I wish to flame you =x.
However I will hold my tounge and say that the 4 games I played AE is total poo =/ . Honestly though, I -DO- Appreciate the work you put into it. It just came out bad.

Its like taking Frosted Flakes and changing them to chocolate and then everyone who liked vanilla doesnt like it anymore =/. Don't fix whats not broken. LIKE RING OF PROTECTION -.- 100 woulda been better price, and yes 25 gold is a LOT when your calculating starting money =(. Its half a Ironwood Branch ^_^. Potions of Health should be 75 too but =x.

Well, as this is the final, thanks for everything you ever did. Except for 2 things =

I couldnt summon Fire Elementals forever =.-
Eclipse hit buildings :sneaky: ( although those WERE the good days )

Goodbye Eul, and GL on TFG =p

[Recnamorcen]

It isn't just Eul that wasted his time helping with AE. Everyone that took time to submit custom content (including myself) got royally screwed by this. I really hope you guys are happy. It was bad enough he couldn't fit the custom icons we submitted into the map, but now there isn't even going to be a DOTA AE so people who DID have their content put into the map just got discredited and the rest of us have piles of DOTA garbage lying in our hard drive with no hope of anyone giving a damn.

Whatever, I think I'm just going to delete all of my icons. I have no use for them anymore.....

[JemHadar]

Hm, that's sad. I loved the new terrain. And the Ninja kicked ass. And the Wraithlord. The TS ... nah, I don't want that stupid shade :P
I really hope, you make AE for TFT, please.

[hellsempty]

Ouch that sucks even more..

this seems like a totally unprofessional way to be handling the situation.

but of course what do I know about these things.... :unsure:

[Diesel[DG]]

well some people appreciate everything. i am one.

thanks :)

[Moon Impact]

[kfcho7]

I was looking forward to the new SA skin :( Too bad you scrapped it. Thanks a whole lot for your hardwork and they are appreciated!

Edit: We all know how hard you have worked for DotA, but sadly we could only say a simple thank you, hope it means alot to you, because it does to us :) And these hardwork are really well appreciated, atleast I am one who does.